(Warning: The following post is a petty, immature rant that contains coarse and insensitive language. If you do not wish to have tarnished your undoubtedly pristine image of me, you are free to... well, shoot... you are ADVISED to skip this posting.)
I couldn't post on Media Matters today. Comments were down. And I mean DOWN. I couldn't even see past comments. It may have been a glitch. They may have finally decided to ban a certain foul-mouthed Detroit Liberal with a penchant for getting creative obscenities past their filters. (Though I doubt it, seeing as how I've been polluting their board with my person brand of coarse invective for MANY YEARS now, with nary a warning given my way.) Or, in credit to their better judgement, (yes, you read that right), they may have simply felt it was the decent thing to do, given the passing yesterday evening of Right-Wing Propagandist Andrew "My mother sucked cocks in hell" Breitbart.
Well... Media Matters may choose to take the high road here, with a simple and respectful obituary. But I wouldn't have it be said that I've ever claimed to always be above the fray. So even if I'm the only Blogger out there with the both the both the requisite courage and the colossal lack of tact to continue to speak the truth from their point of view, I care not. Just as death does not magically transform Joe Paterno from a Pedophile Enabler back into a Football Legend, neither shall death transform Andrew Breitbart from a petty, vile, lying, Right-Wing Propagandist into something resembling a decent human being. In his public life, the man lied with every breath he drew, and every word he wrote, and built his career with the intellectual integrity of a weasel. He misinformed and propagandized for a living, and what little he accomplished was, in the end, only to the net harm and detriment of this country.
The Irish have a saying, and I hope I get it pretty close:
May you be in Heaven half an hour before the Devil knows you're dead.
Well, I think I'll modify that just a smidge and say...
Andrew Brietbart stokes fires in Hell with his dick.
And if his Mother should happen to read this, let me just that while I'm sorry for your loss, MY MOTHER didn't raise her son to be a liar. (Lacking in manners... OK, touche.) And if you ARE going to sell your soul to the Devil, you should probably accomplish more from the bargain than what Andrew Breitbart did in his miserable, short-ass life.
So I say: Good riddance to Right-Wing garbage. The world is a marginally better place today than it was yesterday for your passing.
And I couldn't care less anyway: In my universe he's already been dead for over over a year now.)
(Closing Note: I will read, but not respond to, any and all comments placed under this thread. I'm sure this won't win me many friends from either side of the aisle, but what little religion I still carry with me come from the Catholics and it is that one must confess and repent before one is forgiven. Andrew Breitbart died an unapologetic liar. And thus he deserves to be remember as no better. Fuck him. And should some Conservative find his way back here the day after I die to remind everybody what a sonofabitch I was? Hey: I'll raise my glass to his honesty, wherever it is that I am.)
I believe Mr. Brietbart deserves as much respect in death as he showed Sen. Kennedy - none.
ReplyDeleteAs for his family, well, I'm sorry for their loss.
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"Respect," to quote a line that has stuck with me for over four decades, "is what you have to have in order to get."
ReplyDeleteThat's from the 1968 film, 'The Fixer,' directed by John Frankenheimer, script by Dalton Trumbo (blacklisted in the McCarthy years), and starring Alan Bates and Dirk Bogarde. Based on the book by Bernard Malamud, which was based on real events. Number one on my top ten list of underappreciated films.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062977/
"Just as death does not magically transform Joe Paterno from a Pedophile Enabler back into a Football Legend, neither shall death transform Andrew Breitbart from a petty, vile, lying, Right-Wing Propagandist into something resembling a decent human being."
ReplyDeleteWhich gives full and complete reasoning why Sen Byrd didn't become less racist or vile after he died, too. And why he didn't command the respect so many liberals think he deserved after leading the KKK during their heyday. Who can forget his memorable quote about his military service: "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.". Now THAT is a wonderful role model you liberals hold in such high esteem.
When I say "good riddance" about Byrd I get met with hateful comments by liberals. When a liberal says good riddance about a right-winger he gets met with agreement and support. Just sayin ...
BTW, Joe Paterno didn't "enable" anyone. The police, child protection agencies, court system and all the other colleges that may have needed a coordinator ALL knew about the "issue" Sandusky had with kids. But, for some reason Paterno is the one to garner complete blame. Always nice how liberals find others to blame instead of who is actually at fault.
"Which gives full and complete reasoning why Sen Byrd didn't become less racist or vile after he died, too"
ReplyDeleteFull and complete reasoning is something you avoid like the plague, William, when it comes one of your treasured memes. Senator Byrd didn't become less racist and vile after death, but in his life.
"Always nice how liberals find others to blame instead of who is actually at fault." Always nice how you manage to throw in an illogical blanket condemnation of liberals. Just who, in your opinion, is "actually at fault?"
"Always nice how you manage to throw in an illogical blanket condemnation of liberals."
ReplyDeleteWell, I haven't heard a liberal say Joe Paterno is not at fault, yet.
This is a beautiful and touching eulogy, Eddie. HA! It's exactly what the POS deserves.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you answer the question?
ReplyDeleteSigh ... What question did you ask this time that I'm not answering? You sure make a lot of demands when you have no answers to the hypocrisy of the liberal.
ReplyDeleteByrd was an evil, racist person who the liberal held (holds) in high esteem. You protect his name and defend it whenever called to. When a evil right-winger dies you let the shit fly. Just trying to figure out why you're able to defend one evil person but condemn another. I think it is purely related to whether a person is liberal or not. Because if they are liberal then you defend the evil person, but if not then you will condemn the evil person. Of course you know what that is called. Is that why you're trying to change the subject with you last statement? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. You better hope Obama's health care plan doesn't allow death panels for mental incapacitation. Oh, wait, Barney Frank already voted to have that portion of the law removed. Good going, Barney ... vote to have something removed that all the rest of the liberals deny was even there. Those other liberals are SO much smarter than you, Barney.
Eddie said: "And if his Mother should happen to read this, let me just that while I'm sorry for your loss, MY MOTHER didn't raise her son to be a liar."
Good thing this is an "opinion" blog. I'll bet you looked up after saying that hoping you didn't see the lightning bolt coming your way. Maybe you're talking about your brother?
Eddie said: "but what little religion I still carry with me come from the Catholics and it is that one must confess and repent before one is forgiven. Andrew Breitbart died an unapologetic liar."
Of course you KNOW this because you were at his bedside during his death and you KNOW that he neither confessed nor repented. BTW, exactly WHO does your Catholic religion explain you need to repent and confess TO? But, I guess if you're going to glean from a religion it may as well be one that beats and rapes children. Why don't you join the Muslim religion. They're quite similar: they use children to carry and wear bombs intended for marketplaces. Plus liberals will defend the actions of the Muslim while denouncing the actions of Catholics.
Maybe this is the answer you are looking for? Jerry Sandusky and his CHOSEN sexual preference is at fault. There seems to be a lot of CHOICES being made. You defend some choices but denounce other choices. Don't worry, I do the same thing. You call me stupid for making my choices because they aren't the same as your choices. But I think you're an idiot for being a hypocritical liberal. I guess we're even.
ReplyDeleteBut this is an article about how evil you and other liberals think Breitbart was. Maybe you are god (like Eddie claims to be) and you know whether he repented or not. Amazing how liberals will claim ultimate knowledge of something they don't even believe in.
You should really get a part time job in a movie theatre, William. Your talent for projection would serve you better there. I have no idea, and no interest, in whether Breitbart repented or not. The evil he did will live after him.
ReplyDeleteI defend some choices but denounce others? Of course. I hope, however, that I have a more open mind and better judgement than some not so far from here.
Likewise how I feel about the evil Byrd did. It will live with him too. Only you think it won't, huh? What a hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteIn his life, Byrd did much to renounce and undo the evil he had done. You call yourself a Christian, yet you hold him ineligible for repentance and Redemption, the bases of the Christian Faith, and I'M the hypocrite?? Hilarious. I've accused you, on the Hypocrite thread, of throwing that word around inaccurately (and, quite frankly, hypocritically. Once again, you go out of your way to prove my point. Thanks.
ReplyDelete"You call yourself a Christian, yet you hold him ineligible for repentance and Redemption"
ReplyDeleteThat's right, I call myself a Christian. And since I don't believe the 'renouncing' Byrd did then I'm a hypocrite? I am taught to make judgements about good and evil ... I make a judgement about Byrd and you call me a hypocrite because I don't think he renounced anything? I think it is you who fails to understand the meaning of that word.
In today's society if you as much as say the "N-word" you are lambasted without cease. When Byrd ruled the KKK club (he belonged to) hanging black men was the "norm" for that organization, yet you find it in your heart to excuse his actions because he championed for the liberal cause for a few years. That's fine, I don't feel the same.
Using your hatred of Breitbart and love of Byrd, I don't think you have any room to whine about anyone being a hypocrite when it comes to who is evil and who isn't (according to your opinion). Especially after the reason you gave for your hatred of Breitbartd: "The evil he did will live after him."
I neither hate Breitbart, nor love Byrd. I also never said that Breitbart was evil. If you think I have, show it. I've said he has DONE evil as a public figure. I stand by that.
ReplyDeleteYour self justification is incredibly weak, and really not worth my time. Nothing you've said weakens any of the points I've made, except in your own mind. And since you've said you find jaywalking immoral, whoever taught you to 'make judgements about good and evil' did a very poor job of it.
And I'm saying Byrd has DONE evil as a public figure. Unless YOU consider belonging to the KKK and being the local LEADER of the KKK to be a glorious endeavor. Personally, I consider the KKK to be an evil entity with evil intentions. You may have a different point of view of the KKK than that. Apparently you do, or you wouldn't hold someone who proudly claimed leadership in that group in such high esteem.
ReplyDeleteAre you a member of the KKK? Is that why you defend ex-leaders of the KKK so adamantly?
"whoever taught you to 'make judgements about good and evil' did a very poor job of it."
Tell you what, I'll ask God, when I get to Heaven, whether He did a poor job or not. I don't think they allow atheists in Heaven, so you may not be able to ask yourself.
I would go through what you've written to show you the errors and assumptions you've made but, in addition the fact that we've been through it all before, anyone who's arrogant and presumptuous enough to post this, "Tell you what, I'll ask God, when I get to Heaven, whether He did a poor job or not," isn't really going to be swayed by facts or reason.
ReplyDeleteI wonder though, do you think there'll be a flock of virgins waiting for you in heaven?
You may call it "arrogant and presumptuous", but I call it "comforting" to know I'm saved.
ReplyDeleteSo, when you actually BRING some facts or reason, perhaps we could have this conversation. Instead we get: "I have no idea, and no interest, in whether Breitbart repented or not. The evil he did will live after him.". But, you're more than willing to tell me that my same opinion about Byrd is assumptive and error laden. Gosh, if only I could find a way to fit "hypocrite" in there again.
"I wonder though, do you think there'll be a flock of virgins waiting for you in heaven?"
In Christianity, you don't have to be bribed to follow it.
Clearly the fact that you "know" that which nobody can possibly know is the reason you can't actually deal with, or recognize, facts and logic.
ReplyDeleteCall me anything you like. As the saying goes, being called a hypocrite by you is like being called ugly by a toad.
I "know" something that I am clearly taught. It isn't a great mystery or secret. Why would you think it would be a secret whether someone is saved or not? Is that the part that turned you off to religion and caused you to choose atheism?
ReplyDeleteWrong. What you actually know is that you believe what you've been taught. You don't know that what you've been taught actually is true. That's what the 'virtue' (John 20:29) of faith is, William. It's a choice; a choice to believe in something that can't be proven. If something can't be proven it can't be known.
ReplyDeleteYou're assuming (that's what you do most consistently, along with making snide comments about liberals) that I've chosen atheism. I haven't said that, and I've given you no evidence that I am an atheist. I've refused to answer your question about what, if any sect, I subscribe to because you've made it clear that you need to pigeonhole people, and slide them into little boxes created by your preconceptions, prejudices and misperceptions. Now I can't stop you from making assumptions about me (as you said you had to do if I didn't answer that question). But I will not honor them or feed into them.
And by the way, ANY promise that you can attain eternal bliss if you just live by a certain set of rules is, as you called the virgin promise, a "bribe."
"It's a choice; a choice to believe in something that can't be proven. If something can't be proven it can't be known."
ReplyDeleteWhat part of God cannot be proven? What part of the Bible cannot be proven? Atheism isn't a very good religion if all you become is bitter following their edicts. I guess I'd be embarassed to admit being one, too, if being one is too embarassing to admit. Whatever sect you follow, I'm convinced (by your actions) that it can't be a very good sect if you're too embarassed to admit being a member.
"along with making snide comments about liberals"
"because you've made it clear that you need to pigeonhole people, and slide them into little boxes created by your preconceptions, prejudices and misperceptions."
You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but I think you've described right-wingers with similar zeal. And, I certainly know Eddie has used the similar "preconceptions, prejudices and misperceptions" AND "snide comments" when describing conservatives and other right-wingers ... as a whole. I believe that is part of my whine on his hypocrisy thread: he says putting people in boxes is a bad thing but does that very thing himself. Just like you're doing.
"And by the way, ANY promise that you can attain eternal bliss if you just live by a certain set of rules is, as you called the virgin promise, a "bribe."
ReplyDeleteIf there are 2 rooms and each room is controlled by one person. To enter either room you will be judged to be good or evil. Throughout you life you make choices that give indications of whether you are good or evil. The 'good room' has rules that must be followed before allowing entry into it. If those rules are not followed you don't get to enter that room.
The promise I am given is that I will enter the "Kingdom of God" if I believe a certain way. There are no other promises. How is that a "bribe" ?
The "Kingdom of God" promises eternal happiness. That is no less a 'bribe' than the promise of half a gross of virgins, it's just not as specific.
ReplyDeleteThe promise is one you CHOOSE to BELIEVE you are given.
Those men who drove the planes into the Pentagon and WTC 'knew' as strongly as you, that they had been given the promise of Paradise, perhaps more strongly, given their willingness to die. I've heard a survivor (how he survived and how he could have seen this, given the speed of the aircraft I do not know) describe seeing an expression of joy on the pilot of one plane, an instant before it struck the floor below him. The odds of their being right are the same as your odds, or the odds of any of the many religious sects in this world that preach that only people who believe what they believe are bound for glory--pretty puny.
"You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but I think you've described right-wingers with similar zeal."
ReplyDeleteYes, I do say that as if it's a bad thing. It is a bad thing. It means that you're not recognizing the facts that are in front of you, but are cravenly keeping to your ideological comfort zone. And the fact is that I don't, as a rule, tar people with whom I disagree with a broad brush, and I challenge you to find one instance in which I make an assumption about the way you think because you're a conservative.
I will cop to writing, once I believe, but no more than twice, "Spoken like a conservative," or words to that effect. If you're going to throw that in my face, include the context, and the ad hominem to which I was responding. To continue a hockey metaphor, I'll take the two minutes in the sin bin for retaliating in kind.
There is a great body of research, which Eddie has referred to, and more that he has not, which consistently shows that the major difference between the conservative and liberal mind is that the conservative refuses to deal with ideas and data that throw doubt on his preconceptions, prejudices and ideologies, to the point of completely denying their existence, while a liberal is willing, even eager, to explore such things. This is observable on a daily basis, both in the news, and on blogs such as this. You are, if I may say so, a prime example, in your absolute refusal to recognize that the racist Dixicrats ALL, with one exception, moved over to the Republican Party after the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, and that this shift changed the character of of both parties. The fascinating thing is that that one exception, who repudiated his former racism, is the one of them you hate, and with whom you, either out of hypocrisy or an inability to see past what a man was and recognize (or admit) what he became, tar Democrats and liberals.
"The "Kingdom of God" promises eternal happiness. "
ReplyDeleteDo you have proof of that claim? This ought to be good ... a non-believing liberal trying to explain the reality of the "Kingdom of God".
"Yes, I do say that as if it's a bad thing. It is a bad thing. It means that you're not recognizing the facts that are in front of you, but are cravenly keeping to your ideological comfort zone."
Thank you for proving my point about liberal hypocrisy. You claim Eddie brought evidence that shows there are differences between the liberal mind and the conservative mind. Yet YOU prove and admit they act the same way. Because just a couple posts ago you were denouncing various acts that you say conservatives do, then you admit to doing them yourself.
"I've heard a survivor (how he survived and how he could have seen this, given the speed of the aircraft I do not know) describe seeing an expression of joy on the pilot of one plane,"
I can make stuff up too. Get real with your liberal whines of greatness over any other choices.
Hey, I heard that there is a guy with an umbrella near JFK as he got shot. I think I read somewhere that he was a british spy sent to kill JFK. Wow, making stuff up IS so easy. And, now I've fully explained one of this nations great mysteries. Wow, it sure is fun acting like a liberal. No wonder you people like it so much.
" I challenge you to find one instance in which I make an assumption about the way you think because you're a conservative."
Just one? Ok: "In so doing, you're living proof that modern conservatism is a character flaw."
Do you remember typing that just yesterday? Let me guess, now you want more?
OK, OK, OK. I said I wouldn't comment in this thread, and I did that so people could feel free to say openly and honestly what they thought of the obit without any fear of retribution from me about it. (Surprisingly, and even a little bit to my own disappointment, that seems to have been largely unnecessary.) But I've got to say something here, because this has gone on longer that Ali-Foreman, and it looks more like Tyson-Spinks.
ReplyDeleteAnd William?
You're Spinks.
Knocked out, cold, 91 seconds and ten punches into the first round.
And your acute lack of awareness of this is like Spinks waking up in the Hospital later that night, asking for the ref and insisting he can still fight!
"What part of God cannot be proven?"
BOOM! A left hook at the opening bell, and things are not starting well for the challenger!
"What part of the Bible cannot be proven?"
A FLURRY of punches, and the champ has Spinks against the ropes!
(And yet you did that all to yourself! Two lines, and you have proven for everyone with internet access, beyond any and all doubt, that you have no idea what words mean or how logic works.)
"You are, if I may say so, a prime example, in your absolute refusal to recognize that the racist Dixicrats ALL, with one exception, moved over to the Republican Party after the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, and that this shift changed the character of of both parties. The fascinating thing is that that one exception, who repudiated his former racism, is the one of them you hate, and with whom you, either out of hypocrisy or an inability to see past what a man was and recognize (or admit) what he became, tar Democrats and liberals."
[sickening] THUD! And with that solid upper-cut, Spinks is down for the count!
William: It's over. You've lost. And you're the only one left who this isn't painfully obvious to. After what Conchobhar has done here? I don't want to hear another fucking PEEP out of you about Robert Byrd, until you recognize - and can reconcile - the absurd position you have put yourself in, and the inherent HYPOCRISY - yes: HYPOCRISY - in your argument.
While I fully understand your capability to determine how "evil" Breitbart was, I can't comprehend your denial of the evil Byrd did. Are you saying he did NO wrong? Wow! I've never heard of someone so brainwashed that they will fully believe someone who was a leader in the KKK. You liberals are so much more understanding and compassionate than us stupid conservatives. Too bad you aren't as understanding to those who don't think the way you think. But, it IS understood why you are compassionate to those who DO think like you do (ex-KKK leaders).
ReplyDeleteMy salvation is all set. I'm sure you can make your own determination about yourself. However, you and I are NOT the One who makes that ultimate decision. When you become that person, I'll listen more intently to your insane reasoning for who is evil and who isn't. Until then I'll trust who taught me to make that determination on my own.
Good luck with holding KKK leaders in such high esteem. Actually it fits the precognition abilities you liberals seem to claim to have. Who is going to be your next "ex"-racist leader you want to be the pride of your party? Because it seems to me, the way you liberals condemn all conservatives from now to eternity, that past actions do determine how evil someone is. And, of course, NO liberal does any evil so I can see how you would support any liberal who is evil while decrying any conservative who was evil. Good thing both got their one shot talking to someone who matters after they died. He will make the final decision on who was and wasn't evil. I merely state my OPINION! What part of THAT do you not understand?
Explain how I am being hypocritical by expressing my opinion on who I think is evil?
Ah, Willie, Willie, Willie;
ReplyDeleteYour last post to continue Eddie's conceit, is just punch drunk mumbling. You're going to hold on to your fantasies about being 'saved', and I'm going to continue to laugh at your weak minded and superstitious naivete. Next case.
Your lack of logic and enthrallment in prejudice is, once again, on display in your silly meme about liberals loving the Klan. And as long as you're accusing Byrd of terrible actions for which you will never forgive him (pretty presumptuous, unless you were injured by him yourself), it would behoove you to say just what actions you're referring to. I know he said some terrible things, some as bad or worse than things your hero Rush says. ***
But did he lead terrorist gangs on night forays? (proof required) And don't accuse me again of having a soft spot for the Klan. When I was a boy, before you were born, the fact that the Klan hated me for my religion told me that the religion I belonged to was a good one.
"Explain how I am being hypocritical by expressing my opinion on who I think is evil?"
It's been explained a number of times, including the paragraph of mine that Eddie referenced above. There are none so blind, William, as those who will not see. Get yourself a dog.
"(pretty presumptuous, unless you were injured by him yourself)"
ReplyDeleteWhich you don't know, do you?!? Byrd did many things in his life, he helped some and hurt some. Those who were hurt by his actions have feelings and memories about that. You, obviously, only have compassion for the few he helped and no compassion for the many he hurt. But, your when your hero's come from the KKK, what more should I expect of you?
I'm sorry you have a soft spot for the Klan, but don't whine to me that someone calls you on it.
"But did he lead terrorist gangs on night forays? (proof required)"
He was the leader of the KKK in his area. What did the KKK do at night? Who gave authorization for those activities? Sorry, didn't mean to use left-wing logic on you. You ARE one of those who feel the 'head of the company' should be held responsible for actions of all under his command, right? For instance: you DO feel Rupert Murdoch should be held responsible for all those phone-hacking accusations happening in England, right? I thought so. But, you also feel the leader of a KKK unit should NOT be held responsible for actions of those under his command? Should I be typing this in the "hypocrisy" article? Or is that normal liberal thought process?
"the fact that the Klan hated me for my religion told me that the religion I belonged to was a good one."
So, Byrd hated your religion, and that caused you to love what he stood for?
"There are none so blind, William, as those who will not see. "
Amen to that, brother. Amen to that!
"I'm sorry you have a soft spot for the Klan, but don't whine to me that someone calls you on it."
ReplyDeleteOK, bright boy, give me a step-by-step account of the assumptive process (it can't be called logical, and you'll have to prove it involves thought) that lets you say something as idiotic as that.
"give me a step-by-step account of the assumptive process"
ReplyDeleteNot trying to make any judgements on your reading comprehension abilities, but I did that in the post you just responded to. You ARE the one who is defending Byrd as a 'righteous' human being, correct? Byrd was the leader of a KKK unit, correct? And, you believe the leader of a group should be held responsible for the actions of those under him/her, correct?
Sorry, just want to make sure of where you stand on 'leaders being held accountable for actions of those being led' issues. Like Byrd leading the KKK or Murdock leading Fox. That way I can make an informed comment on your feelings about personal responsibility/accountability. Do those leaders have any responsibility/accountability for actions done by those who worked under them?
Nothing in this mishmash gives any justification for your accusing me of having a 'soft spot for the Klan.' Spit in the hole, man, and tune again. This time, try to stay on topic.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I would be embarrassed to be called on for having a soft spot for the KKK, too. Especially if I was a liberal. Liberals are supposed to be so compassionate, yet they (at least one anyway) think the KKK produces some of the most vital people in American history. You should stick to "stay on topic". There isn't much else you can say without making yourself look even more silly (if that's possible).
ReplyDeleteStill can't find a way to show a logic to your lies, can you? Typical, for a magic thinker.
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